Never thought I'd say it

Posts: 746 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:47 pm

After having done all my recent work in CSS, I went back toa legacy site I was the admin of to do some new work on it - and - OMG I HATE TABLES

I feel SOOOOOOOOO handcuffed!

I never EVER thought I'd say that but man alive...tabled designs are SO clunky and filled what I now see as hacks to make things fit and look correctly. After doing that work - I feel - dirty...

Long Live CSS

Posts: 1029 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:26 pm

I know I already feel that way... amazing...

Posts: 126 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:48 pm

That why I create my tables in Frontpage.

*runs and ducks for cover*

I do the rest of the coding by hand.

Posts: 1029 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:08 pm

*fetches cattle prod*

Posts: 766 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:24 pm

> *fetches cattle prod*

Don't get me excited. Shocked

Posts: 746 · Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:31 pm

is right - lol

Posts: 1129 · Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:56 am

lol i hope that was a joke! Laughing

shall we start with a quicky tut on tables? Rolling Eyes

Posts: 126 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:21 pm

I know how to make tables in HTML, I just get bored typing <tr><td></td></tr> over and over again. I also hate having to figure out the rowspan and colspan when I need to merge rows and columns. I also worked for a web development company that only used Frontpage. The only thing that saved my sanity was that Frontpage has an HTML view.

Posts: 1029 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:29 pm

Here's an idea (and a suggestion that I used myself) - don't use tables. Use Layers!!! Wink

No more <tr><td></td></tr> Wink

Posts: 766 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:14 pm

What's the cross-browser support on Layers like?

Posts: 1029 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:22 pm

Pretty good actually... As bobum has pointed out sometimes you need to implement a small (very simple) css hack (or 2 or 3 Wink

), but the hack doesn't affect other browsers, so not only do they fix IE but they don't impede the others.

In fact, I noticed hizzlemahshizzle.com's homepage utilizes layers, except for one table (which is used properly - to contain tabular data)... and they page displays nicely using whatever Very Happy

Posts: 1129 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:10 pm

i believe sites like cnn & espn are all done in layers now

allen have u tried to make them with dreamweaver? couldnt be any easier and no junk code or just make a snippet and when u want to edit it its a snap

Posts: 1029 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:36 pm

:rolleyes: here we go again ROFL!!!

Posts: 1129 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:42 pm

i think that i should give up my avatar to all those who use frontpage because that definately is a good one for them lol

Posts: 410 · Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:41 pm

Well, my new avatar represents FrontPage, and it's charging forward. Meanwhile your little guy is stuck... ain't he? Ah, the awesome power of FrontPage!!!! I hope my guy doesn't scare your guy too much!!! Cool