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Web Services? Anyone?
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Does anyone here have any experience making ASP.NET web services?
I'm diving into a new project that I think it perfect for web services and would like to hear anyones experience with them...

I use C# BTW...
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I've never actually made a web service so I don't think I'll be of too much help to you on this :/
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I have really fallen inlove with the idea of web services after doing a little more research on them...I think I am really going to like making them. The basic idea is that you can create a class on your webserver and methods and properties of that class are exposed to the whole internet. So other programmers can actualyl have access to your stuff that will work inside of thier code. This is going to be so cool...

I'm working on a security model and I think a web service will be the way to go. We have many applications across several domains and several disparate technologies that all need to come together and use a single signon. I think the way to do this will be to write the secuity routines as a web service and let all the other apps consume my service. I believe I can secure the actual transmition between the apps and my service by using SSL. More on this project as it develops...This is gonna be so cool...

If anyone has any refeence material - I'd love to see it...post away
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Just don't get carried away with the Passport idea... we all know how wrong that's gone... Wink
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I looked into Passport and it SOUNDS like the a good idea except for the fact that everything is controlled my MS - that's a terrible idea and would be enough to keep us away from Passport all together.

If we could do a local passport thing it might not be so bad...I mean, it's a single sign on which is what we're looking at anyways...
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No... what I was saying was to be ontop of the potential secuirity issues - like what has plagues Passport. Passport was a great idea that was poorly implemented. Actually, the implementation wasn't so bad either... but they were hanging onto so much information that related to sooooo many different sites that there were "big rewards" for getting into the system... I don't like that. Retention of any unnecessary information is just a no-no anyway.
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I think Cheryl (one of our developers here) has done some development with web services. I'll check with her on Monday.
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Cool - the main thing I am wondering is how difficult is it to secure the interaction between service and consumer? I think the communication between the two can be done via SSL...need to do some more research on that part...most of the people that will be using my web service are Java developers - so this should owrk nicely for cross platforma nd cross domain usage...
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Well I've been doing a ton of research into securing web services and it sounds like things are moving along nicely in that department. I've read quite a bit about WS-Security and using SSL/TSL for securing the pipes. I'm working on getting my secure "hello world" app up and running now. I don't have an SSL certificate yet so that will just have to come later...

Has anyone heard of any inherrant insecurities wihtin web services? If so can you point me to any docs on that?
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the whole passport deal is a friggin nightmare, the basic reason why ebay wont deal with it anymore

scott go to macromedia.com they have a lot of good web service stuff
i know this is .net but this is were coldfusion is kickin butt and of course thats what i know

plus a web service is really best run with flash, dude im tellin ya, just rocks

im reading a book called flash mx 2004 pro for server geeks and its all about this stuff and all the examples are in cfm, .net & java.

not sure bout .nets version but in cfm u can write a simple cfc and theres your webservice.

the problem with a lot of webservices is they use a ton of xml and with a lot of concurrent users it really chokes itself
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i think in .net it can be called from classes
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http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/topics/web_services.html?promoid=home_dev_web_services_021104
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k 1 more lol
http://www.aspnetresources.com/
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Well the main reason for using web services in this instance is that we have several domains and sevearl different programming languages (classic asp, cfm, Java, .net, desktop AND webapps) and right now each on of the web servers has this application installed on it, ported for the specific language and it is a NIGHTMARE to administer. By using a webservie to replace all of those individual installations we should clean up the entire mess and let each of the programmers use the app in their native alnguage without having to port it all over Gods creation...

And what do you mean by this

a web service is really best run with flash


wtf?
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Dave... as great as flash is, it still lacks alot of native functionality... when MM gets on the ball alittle more and incorperates more real world useful (not just graphical) functionality into the product... then maybe we'll talk.

Now, I will admit that I could be talking out my arse, but last time I read anything on the topic there was still alot that flash could not natively do.
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