It's coming along REALLY quickly though - I mean I was amazed at what it could do really...
It is becoming a pretty powerful tool. But I just don't like that I have to be an artist to use the dang thing...
I have like ZERO art skills and as such Flash is pretty much useless to me as a developer.

Now if I was an artist who had some programmng skills - I'd LOVE Flash prolly...

I still wanna kno what he meany by his Flash/Web Services remark though

josh ur talking out your arse, you really should look at it now (flash not your arse!)

you dont have to be an artist to use it either anymore and with actionscript 2.0 it becomes a OOP language as well and very powerful.

if u've got data, flash will take it!
it will pull in variables from your pages, or a text file or parse xml with ease. use the components so u dont have to be an artist, cause god knows im no artist.
u know its easier to make a form in flash than in html and the validations is superb.

the book i recommended http://www.peachpit.com/title/0735713820
is exactly what u need scott

as for the comment, that sthe typical reason shops try and go with web services (too take info from diff sources and programming launguages and make the datat available easier).
depends on how u need the data back, could be independant for each service or like i said flash could pull them all in on one page

macromedia even has free extensions that say u want to consume a webservice u can use a wizard and it will walk u thru pulling it in, easy as pie

Beats me... I know, obviously, you can access web services via Flash, but publish them? That's a new one...

never said publish them

ok lofty - but what do you mean when you say "a web service is best run with Flash"??
Best why? Do you just mean that Flash is able to consume web services or is there some hidden thing I am missing or what?

I think this is just another flavor of the moment along the same lines of "Linux is better than Windows" and "ColdFusion is the best"... Now it's going to be that Flash is the best

lol no josh
yes consuming them not making them. making them is cake, well at least in coldfusion

try it josh then make that statement
i could make 10 in flash before u could make 1 in .net

I was just kidding D

You may be able to make them a bit faster (but not much), but they will have nowhere near the reliability or power of a .NET web service!!! *thunder*

I've never produced a web service... never had a reason, so I can't really argue with you on that as I just don't know. I have a feeling you've never published a WS in .NET either... so I think we can both disqualify ourselves lol

lol

u forgot to add the added luxery of incredible security and trustworthyness graciously supplied on windows servers from, ummmmm, ummmm ..... anyone haha


no i havent made one in .net but i have watched it being done in .net and have fun

ok lets do an example

make the web service
in this case a cfc

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
<!--- get all guestbook entries --->
<cfcomponent>
<cffunction name="gbEntries" access="public" returntype="query" output="false" hint="Guestbook Entries">

<cfquery name="qMessages" datasource="#dsn#" username="#un#" password="#pw#">
SELECT *
FROM gpb_gb
ORDER BY messageID DESC
</cfquery>

<cfreturn qMessages>

</cffunction>
</cfcomponent>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

then in flash open up the datagrid hepler and post a link to the cfc in it and basically ur done.

in an html enviroment, u have to do the coding to find and pull the info in, then style the page and lay it out and so on and on

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/flash/articles/datawizards.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/flash/articles/ria_dataservices.html

ok - now how would I as a .NET developer consume your web service?

Or a Java Developer?

Or a Python developer?

etc?

Does cold fusion create the necessary WSDL documents for WS discovery?

.net is classes i think

i dunno on those, i dont deal with them, guess i could look in this book as it has .net too

google it, plenty of info on, go to macromedia.com --> flash mx 2004 then find the data tutorials
ton of stuff there

im not sure on the discovery stuff since im not aware what it is
but a cfc is called as a wsdl

sorry i was wrong its not .net classes its assembilies